question about wysiwyg

[God Of War]

so I know that if a model is equipped with a certian item then the rules state the actual model must have a representation of that item equipped, but does it apply in reverse? I found a very cool model which Id like to use as a hag bsb, but the issue it that the model also wields a giant scythe. last I checked hag dont have scythes, but it does have the two hand weapons equipped to it as well... would I be able to get away with this model on the table or not?

[Qrab]

99% of the people you play won't have a problem with it.

[Gobbla]

Turn the scythe into a banner pole?

[God Of War]

well the model already has a HUGE banner held up, but in the otehr hand has a giant scyth resting on its shoulder

[captkurt]

For characters I generally consider that WYSIWYG does not really apply.  There is simply too much variability to be reasonable.  Different types of armor, shield/no shield, 2 weapons, great weapon, pistol or bow, where are those scrolls, etc etc.  How many different variations do you need?  Way too many!

If you had a unit of dudes with 2 weapons and you called them Halberds, then I would call foul...because it can easily lead to confusion (even if the unit in question cannot have 2 weapons).

So I would say that as long as it is clearly a character, and clearly a BSB, anything else is pretty much fair game.

[Matt]

so I know that if a model is equipped with a certian item then the rules state the actual model must have a representation of that item equipped, but does it apply in reverse? I found a very cool model which Id like to use as a hag bsb, but the issue it that the model also wields a giant scythe. last I checked hag dont have scythes, but it does have the two hand weapons equipped to it as well... would I be able to get away with this model on the table or not?

That is a GW rule, and I'm betting you are looking at a non-GW mini.  In any event you are allowed to use that mini, it shouldn't be a problem. 

-Matt

[Gobbla]

well the model already has a HUGE banner held up, but in the otehr hand has a giant scyth resting on its shoulder

Typically, not a problem.  In the past, BSB's could not have Great Weapons, anyway.  In the past, Dark Elves were so crappy, no one cared, anyway.  WYSIWYG is definitely an issue if the character HAS a GW, but it is not modeled.  Not so much if the model has what looks to be one, but it’s not.  Still, worth mentioning to the opponent.  Methinks WSYWIG was a bigger issue, in the past.  It really became an issue in the 40K V. 2 days, when there was a myriad of potent weapon/armor/gear combo’s.  Nowadays, in a game that routinely features Star Dragons and Bloodthirsters and such, the phantom scythe on your BSB is probably not high on anyone’s list of grudges.

[johnnymaco]

jest letting the opponent know and maybe reminding him during the game is usually enough to make it ok.

[Gobbla]

I kind of agree, except that I will forget to remind my opponent during the game.  In fact, I’ll probably forget the model does not have a GW, and my opponent will have to remind me.  Hell, if I don’t have my glasses, WYSIWYG is hit and miss, anyway. 

[MadGreek]

Of course if you are really worried about it - remove the scythe.  Sounds like a good excuse for a little coversion session.

[Evil Ben]

I generally go by the stats for the troop type.
For instance, I have a unit of Dark Eldar warriors that I constructed to have pistols and CCWs.
The stats available to the unit as a whole don't allow that, so i just use the base stats, which means
their pistols and CCWs are treated like a rapid fire rifle. I just think DE warriors look better theme-wise
jumping from a raider with p and CCWs.